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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 19 Jan 2012 13:07 
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mavikfelna wrote:
Ah, thanks for clarifying the IP vs Orbital sat question. I was wondering how the US had launched their lunar flyby.

Of course, now I have to fit some of those missions in. :: facepalm::

--Mav


Lol, np bud. This is why I am taking myself out of the game. I know the system in and out, so I know how to get thar fustest wit da mostest! :bs And as such my pulling ahead is just going to get worse, and that is not fair to the other players.



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 19 Jan 2012 13:39 
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After realizing that the missions were about as clear as a muddy pond I have begun to redo the missions. Below is the new look for them. Let me know if this works for you all before I do them all up in this fashion. :AH


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Orbital Satellite
Hardware Required:
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Lifting Body
Orbital Satellite
Communications Package


                   Mission Steps

  Step                      Hardware Safety Check
________________________________________
Launch                                MLB
Orbital Insertion Burn                MLB
Hardware Power On                   Orb Sat
Hardware Power On                  Comm Pack




Cheers, Thor

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Benno the Mad Wrote:
man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 19 Jan 2012 13:58 
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It's an easy to read format. Maybe I am just used to the way you do things as i did not have issues with the way it was already listed.

Work with Ken long enough, you begin to think like him(shudder...) :st

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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 19 Jan 2012 14:53 
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haegan2007 wrote:
It's an easy to read format. Maybe I am just used to the way you do things as i did not have issues with the way it was already listed.

Work with Ken long enough, you begin to think like him(shudder...) :st


This is why fresh eyes and minds help with testing. They give a new perspective on things. :AH

Why I am glad Tssha and MrAnderson decided to join the game!

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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 19 Jan 2012 18:17 
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Shiny.

Alot easier to read, plus I don't have to copy the format each mission.


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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 19 Jan 2012 18:43 
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mavikfelna wrote:
Something is nagging me about the new format but I can't pin it down yet. Maybe just indent the hardware list since it all kind of runs together. It's nice having all the mission steps and hardware listed in the mission description though.

--Mav


Mav, I think it is the Code thingie for posting here on the forum. I tried to use the Underline and Bold stuff, but did not show up. But if you can pinpoint what is bothering you, shout it out.

@MrAnderson, that's the idea. Make the game easier for the players to have fun with. :AH



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 20 Jan 2012 09:49 
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All turns recieved have been processed and turns sent out.

Tssha, still waiting on May from you.
Mav, still waiting on March from you.



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 20 Jan 2012 09:57 
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How does this look as the new template?

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9.0 MISSIONS AND STEPS


Orbital Satellite


Hardware Required:
1.) Lifting Body
2.) Orbital Satellite
3.) Communications Package


Mission Steps


Step                                   Hardware Safety Check
Launch                                            MLB
Orbital Insertion Burn                            MLB
Hardware Power On                               Orb Sat
Hardware Power On                              Comm Pack




Cheers, Thor

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Benno the Mad Wrote:
man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 20 Jan 2012 10:33 
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I think I have settled on the final look. Below is the new header and the first three missions. Comments are required! :w :bs


9.0 MISSION DESCRIPTIONS

Any hardware beyond the minimum required will also add a step, and what type of step it will be depends on the hardware added. Any revelant astronaut skills will be subtracted from the die roll for that check. Capsule Piloting from Capsule checks, etc. etc.

Code:
Orbital Satellite


Hardware Required:
1.) Main Lifting Body
2.) Orbital Satellite
3.) Communications Package


Mission Steps


Step                           Hardware Safety Check
____________________________________________________
Launch                                  MLB
Orbital Insertion Burn                  MLB
Hardware Power On                     Orb Sat
Hardware Power On                    Comm Pack




Unmanned Sub-Orbital


Hardware Required:
1.) Main Lifting Body
2.) Capsule


Mission Steps


Step                           Hardware Safety Check
____________________________________________________
Launch                                  MLB
Re-entry                              Capsule
Recovery/Landing                      Capsule




Animal Sub-Orbital


Hardware Required:
1.) Main Lifting Body
2.) Capsule


Mission Steps


Step                           Hardware Safety Check
____________________________________________________
Launch                                  MLB
Re-entry                              Capsule
Recovery/Landing                      Capsule




Cheers, Thor

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Benno the Mad Wrote:
man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 20 Jan 2012 12:10 
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Looks good!

Yeah, fell a bit behind yesterday. Full day. Got some free time today though.


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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 20 Jan 2012 12:25 
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Tssha wrote:
Looks good!

Yeah, fell a bit behind yesterday. Full day. Got some free time today though.


NP bud. I am a full service GM. I nudge my players if need be. :bs



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 20 Jan 2012 18:11 
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Þórgrímr wrote:
I think I have settled on the final look. Below is the new header and the first three missions. Comments are required! :w :bs


9.0 MISSION DESCRIPTIONS

Any hardware beyond the minimum required will also add a step, and what type of step it will be depends on the hardware added. Any revelant astronaut skills will be subtracted from the die roll for that check. Capsule Piloting from Capsule checks, etc. etc.

Code:
Orbital Satellite


Hardware Required:
1.) Main Lifting Body
2.) Orbital Satellite
3.) Communications Package


Mission Steps


Step                           Hardware Safety Check
____________________________________________________
Launch                                  MLB
Orbital Insertion Burn                  MLB
Hardware Power On                     Orb Sat
Hardware Power On                    Comm Pack




Unmanned Sub-Orbital


Hardware Required:
1.) Main Lifting Body
2.) Capsule


Mission Steps


Step                           Hardware Safety Check
____________________________________________________
Launch                                  MLB
Re-entry                              Capsule
Recovery/Landing                      Capsule




Animal Sub-Orbital


Hardware Required:
1.) Main Lifting Body
2.) Capsule


Mission Steps


Step                           Hardware Safety Check
____________________________________________________
Launch                                  MLB
Re-entry                              Capsule
Recovery/Landing                      Capsule




Cheers, Thor



looks good. Easy to understand. I'll be a bit late with my orders today

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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 20 Jan 2012 18:38 
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Gav wrote:
I'll be a bit late with my orders today


NP bud. Thanks for keeping me informed. :AH



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 20 Jan 2012 19:28 
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Þórgrímr wrote:
Gav wrote:
I'll be a bit late with my orders today


NP bud. Thanks for keeping me informed. :AH



Cheers, Thor


No probs ... I'm back early so I have done my turn and sent it in !

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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 20 Jan 2012 20:15 
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Gav wrote:
No probs ... I'm back early so I have done my turn and sent it in !


Got it bud! Thanks. :AH



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
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Halfway through the year already! It's really starting to heat up, and i'm working on a newspaper template.

Also nice work on the mission layout.

Edit: Might as well post it here, but do we need to "enroll" our astronauts in basic training or are they already trained?


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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
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MrAnderson wrote:
Halfway through the year already! It's really starting to heat up, and i'm working on a newspaper template.

Also nice work on the mission layout.

Edit: Might as well post it here, but do we need to "enroll" our astronauts in basic training or are they already trained?


Thanks bud. I try to make the games as player friendly as I can. So input like this is very valuable. :AH

Since I made a goof at the end of last year I auto enrolled your 'nauts into basic once it was completed. They should be in training now. :AH



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 21 Jan 2012 11:31 
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All turns recieved have been processed and new turns sent out. :AH

Still waiting on Tssha's June turn.



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 22 Jan 2012 12:27 
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Guys, today I am just going to process Mav's, and Tssha's if he turns one in, turns. I will be finishing up the new rules additions.

This will give Mav and Tssha a chance to catch up.

But, at the same time I do not want to halt the game for the rest, since it would not be fair for the players who submit their turns on time. So, new GM Rule. :bs

If a player gets more than 4 turns behind in the game, any first prestige points he may have gotten by turning in his turns, will be forfieted and the players, who have kept current, may capture them. Even if a month or so after the player which is behind would have.

Example: Player A is 6 months behind the rest of the players, his last turn sent in was Dec, and would have gotten the first PPs for manned orbital in May.

The rest of the players have turned in their June turns. So Player B, who launched a manned orbital in June will get the first PPs for that milestone and mission.



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
If you want peace, prepare for war

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 Post subject: Re: BTS!: DSA Game 1 Discussion
PostPosted: 22 Jan 2012 12:40 
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Hey, another question. If you complete your mission milestones out of order, does the milestone still count as complete? For example, you get Unmanned Sub-Orbital before Orbital Satellites, is the Unmanned Sub-Orbital considered complete if you don't have orbital satellite complete? Does it count after you get orbital satellite? Or do you have to launch a later mission to complete that milestone?


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Tssha wrote:
Hey, another question. If you complete your mission milestones out of order, does the milestone still count as complete? For example, you get Unmanned Sub-Orbital before Orbital Satellites, is the Unmanned Sub-Orbital considered complete if you don't have orbital satellite complete? Does it count after you get orbital satellite? Or do you have to launch a later mission to complete that milestone?


The only milestone order of precedence is listed in the header paragraph for Milestones in the rules.

As for the example, you have to run at least one Orb-Sat mission, and one Unmanned Sub-Orb, to complete those Milestones. Completing one does not complete the other.

I hope this answers your question. :AH



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
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I'm mostly wondering if not completing one milestone holds up the others. I guess this relates to my program in particular, due to a failure to launch. Do I have to relaunch my unmanned Sub-Orbital (now that I have a functioning satellite in orbit), or has that already been counted?


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PostPosted: 22 Jan 2012 13:33 
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Tssha wrote:
I'm mostly wondering if not completing one milestone holds up the others. I guess this relates to my program in particular, due to a failure to launch. Do I have to relaunch my unmanned Sub-Orbital (now that I have a functioning satellite in orbit), or has that already been counted?


To complete a Milestone the mission must be a complete success. So yes, you will need to run another mission.

And to clarify, the Milestones should be completed in the sequence as listed in the rules, but it is not mandatory. Only those listed in the header paragraph of the rules are a mandatory order of launch.

Unless a Milestone is listed as needing another one completed before it, they do not hold up any of the others. But trying to run a mission that skips a lot of other mission types will... umm, not be pretty for said Agency that tried it. :w :bs

For example, if you jump straight to Manned Orbital out of the gate, without doing the Orb Sat, Sub-Orb, or the animal milestones, you are looking at a +20 to each and every die roll for each step in the mission. Pretty much guaranteeing a failure, but, you could also get lucky too! :bs



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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