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PostPosted: 04 May 2006 22:10 
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Once again John Ringo voices my thoughts on another subject, so I just had to post it here. :bs

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Battlestar Galactica: Does it get any better?

Okay, based on all the hype in the Tavern (Ringo's Tavern, Baen's Bar, be there or be a rectangular thingie), I picked up the BSG Season One DVDs. (Thanks alot, guys. /Sarcasm)

Tell me it gets better. I just blew a wad of money on this crap, please tell me it gets better.

I didn't like Season One of Bab5 or ST:TNG and later got to liking both series quite a bit.

But I'm having a hard time thinking that will work with BSG: the problems are too fundamental.

Unless they got a new writer, director and producer I don't see it getting any better. (Okay, and crew. And Special effects guys. And...) Quite frankly, I can't see why anyone would watch it. My problems with it are too numerous to begin to list but just for one:

Any time that you have a technological supply item a requirement in ANY military with sense is that you have second or third party verification. If we get a new radar that's designed to detect stealth aircraft, we eventually have a test where there might be stealth up there or there might not and somebody who is not the designers or closely associated with the designersfinds out which is which. We don't just take the contractor's word for it. "It detects stealth." "I don't see anything." "Must not be anything there..."

Okay, the Cylons are sneaky. I can live with them fucking with the defense computers. Live with it. But...

They've got "stuff" available from multiple "humanoid" cylons by the episode where Balthus creates the "cylon detector" and then fucks them over (again.) (Or they could have, by taking a tissue or blood sample if anyone in the entire crew had a lick of sense.) But nobody, but NOBODY suggests that their geek guy or a third party less affiliated (they've got FIFTY THOUSAND PEOPLE, tell me one of them can't run a fucking test) blind test ten samples to make sure it works or, you know, find out if there's a way to make
another detector (I mean, how much plutonium does it NEED? There's alot of fucking plutonium in a 50 megaton warhead!!!!). They just go along with Balthus. Who, frankly, continually acts like a fucking moron or psychotic instead of a genius. I don't care if the whole human race has been wiped out and everybody is stressed. Anyone who goes around talking to other people needs meds, serious meds. The term here is "psychotic" in a very real and
medically binding (as in straitjacket) sense. Do it once in front of the president and that's one thing. Do it over and over and over again? Come ON!

Here's a shekel or whatever you guys call it, buy a clue.

Every single problem _I_ have has to do with similar deus ex machina
designed to limit the humans. Either the writers can't think things through or they're unwilling to go to the trouble (and it's a pain, trust me) of coming up with another idea when their first, lame-brain, one doesn't work logically. I do, even in my crappiest writing. Are they getting paid too much or what???

Oh, yeah, and check me on this: I seem to remember in the original series that if push came to shove the BSG could take on one Cylon battle whatever and win with some serious damage. One time, IIRC, they took on two and whipped their ass before jumping out. Apparently, that's too violent for the producers. Just fucking once I'd like to see them leave the rubble of a
damned battle whatever behind. It's not inherent to the universe unless you choose to make it inherent to the universe. They so chose. Well. Fuck. Them.

Then there's the acting, if you can call it that. Please: Kill Apollo.
Please kill Apollo. Kill him slowly. No, I take that back, kill him quickly. Just get him off my TV screen. And Balthus and the president (who I actually was GLAD to find out had cancer although if they've got fucking SPACE TRAVEL you'd think they'd have cures for cancer that WE do) and if I have to see one more fucking soft-porn shot with the Hot Cylon I'm going to quit writing the Ghost series. Because sex is starting to make me nauseous.

Starbucks can actually act. So can Adama. I heard he gets killed, though, so there goes the one sliver of hope.

Face facts, the series sucks. Whenever I watch one of these series, military SF all, I keep wondering what the fuck the writers were thinking and what crack den they dragged them out of. I've seen shit ten times better than this rejected from the slushpile. I've seen monkeys that could write better. I normally don't get down on people who've created something and gotten it produced because there's alot of sweat and effort involved. I know. Twenty novels. Trust me I know. But I DO have to scream "WTF Over????" when crap as bad as this gets released. It's like the K-9 Corps novels. "Who in their right mind thought anyone would read/watch this?" Then when the series tanks, the whinging from the producers is always about "nobody would watch it!" Well, here's another shekel, people: "It's the content, stupid."


And what is it about crappy first seasons with SF shows? ST:TNG was AWFUL the first season and then later got pretty decent. Stargate was actually not bad but had some really painful moments. Bab5 was torturous then took off into shining and unholy glory, the only reason that they got the fifth season (which isn't bad for an add-on.) Stargate Atlantis??? Almost in the same realm as BSG. What HAPPENED there? Lousy and unlikeable actors, lousy dialogue and incredibly stupid decisions based on some sort of uber PC garbage. By about the fifth episode I thought the "commander" character was going to outlaw guns as being too "icky." I gave up. Is it that the network people can't recognize crap until it's thrown in their face because it's SF? "Well, it's science fiction. It's supposed to be stupid and incoherent." Then when the ratings come in they go "get it better or get gone?" I dunno. I blame public schools. If people weren't told that Lord of the Flies and Something Wicked were "good" SF they'd have a clue. It's all the fault of public schools. Or, maybe, they just don't have a fucking clue.

Here's a shekel or whatever...

Can somebody please bring back Angel and Babylon Five?



Any rebuttal to this? :bs




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PostPosted: 07 May 2006 20:36 
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Battle Star Galatica? Wasn't that a game. Sorry, never seen an episode.

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I like it and I'm an avid fan. Compared to the original this is awesome.... The original is so damn hokey.... This one has its problems but then again if you think through ANYTHING created you can find errors. Hell I've seen a site where they pick Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers to pieces. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and obviously they have to be doing something right to have enough support to go into a third season. Though I have to admit he makes good points.


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Wolf, can we say Terminator in Space? :w Talk about a rip off of an original idea.

Come on now, Geez at least the original, and I am NOT including Galactica 80 in the original, had the Cylons as a lizard race who evolved into the machine race. And in the original series the Cylons were attacked by the Colonials! :ad

In the new series the Cylons are sentient machines, sound familiar, who turn on their creators, again sound familiar, and destroy them. Then create infiltrator, once again familiar, to kill the survivors of the original attack.

Now you have to admit that sounds a hell of a lot like Terminator in space. :bs But if you enjoy it cool, just be aware its whole premise is lifted from another sci fi idea. :bs



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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Yeah I get what you mean... Never thought of it that way.... I thought the CYlons were created by Man in the original or did that become a plot twist....

Anyways as long as there is no time travel..... And having sons that be your future leader.... I'm happy.


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In the original series, and once again Galactica 80 is NOT the original series, there was no time travel. :w :bs




Cheers, Thorgrimm

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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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Necropost!! AHHH!

Sorry had to point out now the show is moving into its 4th season, I've just realised the are going a bit political with their actions, having parallels a bit here and there with current events, but it remains dark and gritty and though the 3rd season has been strange as all get out, I'm still a fan...


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