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 Post subject: DSA Game Two Discussion Thread
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2012 20:42 
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All Game Two general discussion posts go here.



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2012 21:26 
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I would just like to open up with me saying that the glorious Chinese Empire shall crush all your puny space programs with our new nuclear miss- err peaceful exploratory crafts...


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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2012 23:29 
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MrAnderson wrote:
I would just like to open up with me saying that the glorious Chinese Empire shall crush all your puny space programs with our new nuclear miss- err peaceful exploratory crafts...

You Maoist scum have drifted far from the true meaning of Socialism. Only the Soviet Union will triumph in space !

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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two Discussion Thread
PostPosted: 22 Feb 2012 19:44 
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Now that was funny! good posts guys!

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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two Discussion Thread
PostPosted: 22 Feb 2012 22:00 
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Just got my turn in :tu sorry if i was a bit late. I've never done a Play-By-Email game before so I was sorta baffled for a bit. Even with the rules. But I THINK I figured it out :bs so all is good here!


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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two Discussion Thread
PostPosted: 23 Feb 2012 12:12 
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I have sent my turn today. Sry for kepping you waiting.


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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two Discussion Thread
PostPosted: 23 Feb 2012 14:05 
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Zerkuron wrote:
I have sent my turn today. Sry for kepping you waiting.


Np bud. We kinda expected you and Axner would need more time. So no need to be sorry. Just a gentle reminder. :bs



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Benno the Mad Wrote:
man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two Discussion Thread
PostPosted: 23 Feb 2012 14:48 
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If I may offer some advice, take a good read through the discussion thread for the first game. There's more than a few tips to be garnered from the questions I and others have asked. A few tips:


1) You can order one launch a month from each pad. You may have to book a launch four months in advance but that doesn't mean it's reserved entirely for that launch for the entire time.

2) Pad A launches in the first week of the month, Pad B the second, Pad C the third and Pad D the fourth.

3) Without a communications package, your satellite will just beep at regular intervals. If you want it to do anything else, it needs a communications package.

4) You can change the loadout of any mission before it's on the pad. Once it's on the pad, it's locked and cannot be changed (only scrubbed). This may come in handy if you roll a critical failure on a payload component.

5) Orders don't count if they aren't on your Orders sheet. Don't put them in the email, they won't be heeded.


And if you have any further questions, please feel free to ask here in this thread. That way, we all benefit from the answer and it's about as fast a turn around time for answers anyway as any other way you might have to ask them.


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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two Discussion Thread
PostPosted: 23 Feb 2012 17:37 
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Tssha, thanks for posting those. :br



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two Discussion Thread
PostPosted: 28 Feb 2012 19:33 
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It's awful quiet in here. Nobody has any questions, suggestions, or comments? No fluff stuff yet? :ad



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Benno the Mad Wrote:
man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two Discussion Thread
PostPosted: 29 Feb 2012 10:42 
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Þórgrímr wrote:
It's awful quiet in here. Nobody has any questions, suggestions, or comments? No fluff stuff yet? :ad



Cheers, Thor


There are few minor issues.

The rules is written: " The Admin Annex is where the player will construct the buildings ..." but actually you give the orders in the orders sheet.

Also the orders sheet is the first sheet you will look at when you start playing. So this first sheet should be mentioned in the rules. Beause I did not expect this sheet I got a bit confused.

Also scrubing a missions leads to a decrease of pretige by 3. But a failing Orbital satellite mission only decreases my prestige by 2. I think a failing launch of a rocket + sattelite, maybe damaging the landing pad and all components lost hit the reputation more than simply scrub the mission. So here is maybe a need for a bit tweaking. For example scrubing satellite missions only cost 1 prestige or increase the failure penalty to 3 prestige.


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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two Discussion Thread
PostPosted: 29 Feb 2012 12:30 
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Zerkuron wrote:
There are few minor issues.

The rules is written: " The Admin Annex is where the player will construct the buildings ..." but actually you give the orders in the orders sheet.

Also the orders sheet is the first sheet you will look at when you start playing. So this first sheet should be mentioned in the rules. Beause I did not expect this sheet I got a bit confused.

Also scrubing a missions leads to a decrease of pretige by 3. But a failing Orbital satellite mission only decreases my prestige by 2. I think a failing launch of a rocket + sattelite, maybe damaging the landing pad and all components lost hit the reputation more than simply scrub the mission. So here is maybe a need for a bit tweaking. For example scrubing satellite missions only cost 1 prestige or increase the failure penalty to 3 prestige.


1.) That is correct. In the upper left hand corner of the Admin Annex is where your buildings that are under construction are listed.

Writing your orders is seperate from where the buildings are constructed. The sheet is there for the Players to write, and the GM to respond to, their orders.

2.) Depends on if the Satellite launch is your first, or after. If it is your first, you also get the failure penalty for the Milestone, which is 5, for a total launch failure of 7. Now, if that OS launch was your first, and had a Catastrophic Failure on launch, then you lose the pad, half of your safety of the lifting body, AND a loss of 7 PPs. So a PP loss is relative and situational. If it was your first OS launch and you lost only 2 PPs, then you got off easy. :w The GM must like you. :bs

And we already cover catastrophic failures. Mav can attest as to how deadly a launch step catastrophic failure can be, he had one early in the last game. Also it depends on what step the failure occurred in. Not every failure is a launch failure.

@Mav, Cool! I look forward to seeing some fluff! :bs



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
The Gunny: Stand of the 300

Si vis pacem, para bellum
If you want peace, prepare for war

Gunny's color #FF2400


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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two Discussion Thread
PostPosted: 01 Mar 2012 10:22 
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I got another question.

When I have budget left at a years end (Wuu,Iuu, Rp) do I have them in the next year?.

For example, I have left 5 Wu at December and get in January 500 Wu`s. Do Ihave in January then 500 or 505 Wu?


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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two Discussion Thread
PostPosted: 01 Mar 2012 13:35 
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I thought I would explain my reasoning for the scrub cost and four month requirement for launches a bit better here.

One thing you must understand is that it is a nightmare of logistics to set up a launch for a rocket. In the real world launch vehicles are, usually, only built once a launch is scheduled. Unlike the real thing DSA! allows you to keep inventory on hand.

Then there is the fuel for the lifting body. In the west we use supercooled fuels like LOX and others. The problem with the stuff is that it boils off, even in the best of containers. So the fuel for the rocket in the west is not even moved on site until the day of launch due to boil off.

In the Soviet Union and the east they use a rocket fuel so corrosive it will actually eat away at the rocket itself. The Russian technicians who handled the stuff nicknamed it 'The Witches Brew'. It is a binary fuel based off of the T-Stoff and C-Stoff the Germans used to power their rocket plane, the Me-163 Komet. So their fuel, even though for different reasons, is not moved on site until the day of launch.

All of these things create a logistical nightmare to bring together, and is simplified in DSA by the four month lead time for scheduling a launch. This is also why scrubbing a launch costs so many PPs. They have to scramble to cancel HW purchases, get rid of thousands of gallons of highly toxic chemicals, and then redo the planning all over again.

Mission failures were expected, and as such even in failure lessons were learned. That's why in DSA even if the mission was a failure, any HW that did perform as expected gains in Safety. So, just a plain old mission failure, or partial success, is much easier on the player. :AH

I hope this wee post will help to understand my rationale for the reasons for certain design features. :bs



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
The Gunny: Stand of the 300

Si vis pacem, para bellum
If you want peace, prepare for war

Gunny's color #FF2400


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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two Discussion Thread
PostPosted: 01 Mar 2012 14:15 
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so, unlike the tank crew in their army who drink the alcohol hydraulic fluid, drinking this would be a one shot affair? :)

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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two Discussion Thread
PostPosted: 01 Mar 2012 14:16 
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haegan2007 wrote:
so, unlike the tank crew in their army who drink the alcohol hydraulic fluid, drinking this would be a one shot affair? :)


Lol, yep one 'explosive' affair!! :bs



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Benno the Mad Wrote:
man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
The Gunny: Stand of the 300

Si vis pacem, para bellum
If you want peace, prepare for war

Gunny's color #FF2400


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 Post subject: Re: DSA Game Two Discussion Thread
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2012 12:05 
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Let's all give Mav a big Happy Birthday! Today is the annual anniversary celebrating his entry into this world of ours!

Happy Birthday bud! :tu



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man, you gotta realise that thor and bos fell out of the patriot tree (like the ugly tree, but instills patriotism instead of ugly) and hit every branch on the way down.


"Gone now, dispersed by the brutal destruction of this one day, was the belief that the Darkman and his army of the dead were so superior as to be invincible. By attempting to destroy the morale of the Marines, the Darkman had restored it to full vigor. Dia De La Muerto had failed in its objectives."
The Gunny: Stand of the 300

Si vis pacem, para bellum
If you want peace, prepare for war

Gunny's color #FF2400


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